Ladbrokes Tip: The Moonee Valley Vase is a gun lead-up for VRC Derby hopefuls
The Group 2 Moonee Valley Vase is a key support race on the Ladbrokes Cox Plate Day card at Moonee Valley Racecourse on a Saturday in late October during the Melbourne Spring Racing Carnival. The meeting is highlighted by the Group 1 $3 million Cox Plate (2040m), but also features four Group 2 events.
Along with this Group 2 the other majors on the program are the Group 2 Moonee Valley Fillies Classic (1600m), Group 2 Moonee Valley Gold Cup (2500m) and Group 2 Crystal Mile (1600m). Contested over the same distance as the Cox Plate, 2040m, the race offers $200,000 in prize money and is a set weights race open to three-year-olds only.
It makes a nice lead-up to Flemington’s Group 1 Victoria Derby (2500m) held the following Saturday to kick off the Melbourne Cup Carnival, and the double has recently been achieved by Efficient (2006), Plastered (2004) and Helenus (2002).
The latst edition of the Moonee Valley Vase ran on Saturday October 28, 2017 .
2017 Moonee Valley Vase Results
- 1st: #9 Aloisia
- 2nd: #1 Cliff’s Edge
- 3rd: #3 Salsamor
Moonee Valley Vase Race Info
- Date: Saturday October 28, 2017
- Track: Moonee Valley
- Distance: 2040m
- Conditions: 3YOs – Set Weights
- Status: Group 2
- Prize Money: $200,000
- First Run: 1981
Moonee Valley Vase Betting
Moonee Valley Vase odds are dominated each year by the colts and geldings, who have a far superior record over the fillies in the race, that come off a run in the Group 1 Caulfield Guineas (1600m) two weeks before.
The Caulfield Guineas has produced more Moonee Valley Vase winners than any other race so top three runners in the Group 1 sit high up the Moonee Valley Vase betting markets each spring.
Runners under double figures in the Moonee Valley Vase betting odds have an outstanding recent record in the race with no horse saluting at double figures in over 20 years.
2017 Moonee Valley Vase Odds
The latest Moonee Valley Vase 2017 betting odds and links to our markets will be available below the week of the race so stay tuned for the best Moonee Valley Vase Group 2 Cox Plate Day prices.
Moonee Valley Vase Tips
Moonee Valley Vase tips come out the week of the race and are dominated by three-year-old graduates coming out of the Caulfield Guineas. Held two weeks before the Vase over the mile, the Caulfield Guineas is the best lead-up to the Moonee Valley Vase and runners that finished in the money in the Group 1 are a great tip to take in the Group 2 a fortnight later.
Other good Moonee Valley Vase tips to take include backing any runners that have previous form over further than a mile, runners that have winning form at the track and those under $10 in betting. Odds-on favourites also have a gun record in the race so taking the shortie has proved a successful MV Vase betting tip over the past two decades.
2017 Moonee Valley Vase Tips
Our Ladbrokes’ exclusive Moonee Valley Vase 2017 Tips and exotic Moonee Valley Vase betting selections will be detailed below the week of the race so stay tuned for the three-year-old stayers to get behind for the win this spring.
- 1st: #9 ALOISIA ($2.60) – Nothing separates the Thousand Guineas winning filly and Cliff’s Edge in betting. We can split them though and she comes-up on top. Now prepared by Aaron Purcell, she was forgotten in the Group 1 over the mile last start despite the JJ Atkins second in the winter. She showed up her rivals with an over one length win, suggesting she’ll see out the Vase distance after two weeks between runs. Did it from barrier one and Caulfield and inside alley suits again at The Valley with Luke Nolen retaining the ride on the up-and-comer.
- 2nd: #1 CLIFF’S EDGE ($2.60) – Hard to go outside the top two based on what they both did last time out. Chance that this colt is ready for the 2500m VRC Derby, which he has been targeted for. Won the Ladbrokes Classic (2000m) here last weekend by nearly three lengths. Darren Weir is a master so knows what he is doing backing him up. Must be a youngster that needs plenty of racing, so is rock hard fit and winning chance again.
- 3rd: #5 VIN DE DANCE ($9.50) – Going a little different form line for third with the Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman-trained Kiwi a chance to improve on his Australian debut over the Caulfield mile when third on October 18. Yet to run over further than that, but perhaps crying out for the distance? Damien Oliver on again, fitter and could surprise at a price.
Moonee Valley Vase Field
The Moonee Valley Vase field attracts a quality line-up of three-year-old staying types each spring, some looking to back-up on the short turnaround into the Victoria Derby over more distance the next Saturday. The race is open to both the colts and geldings as well as the fillies and in 2015 Jameka backed-up off a Group 1 Thousand Guineas (1600m) second at Caulfield a fortnight before to beat home the boys in the Moonee Valley Vase. She also won the Group 1 Crown Oaks (2500m) during the Cup Carnival next start and the following year’s Group 1 Caulfield Cup (2400m). In 2017 Aloisia was dominant beating home the boys in the Moonee Valley Vase field by over three lengths after her lead-up Thousand Guineas success.
Male gallopers often back-up in the race off a run in the Group 1 Caulfield Guineas (1600m) that produced the 2015 MV Vase runner-up Shards (13th) and third placegetter Tarzino (7th). Tarzino went on to win that year’s Group 1 Victoria Derby (2500m) seven days after the Vase. Again in 2016 the Caulfield Guineas form held in the Moonee Valley Vase with Sacred Elixir winning the latter after a lead-up eighth.
The 2014 Moonee Valley Vase winner Moonovermanhattan also came off a run in the Guineas (7th), as did Manawanui (2nd) in 2011 who won the Group 2 as the odds-on favourite at $1.18. The last horse to win the Caulfield Guineas – Moonee Valley Vase double was Whobegotyou (2008) who ran second in that year’s Victoria Derby.
Another possible lead-up to the final field is Sydney’s Group 1 Spring Champion Stakes (2000m) a fortnight earlier at Randwick, which last produced a winner of the Group 2 in 2013 with Savvy Nature (3rd).
The other most recent Moonee Valley Vase winner to finish top three in the VRC Derby next start was Super Cool (2nd in 2012), while in 2010 the Vase runner-up Lion Tamer won the Derby next start. The Moonee Valley Vase nominations close the Monday before the race runs on the Saturday and the final field and barriers are out on the Wednesday.
2017 Moonee Valley Vase Field
The official Moonee Valley Vase 2017 Final Field & Barriers are announced the Wednesday before Cox Plate Day and will be published in full below so stay tuned to see what VRC Derby-bound three-year-olds make the starting line-up.
The 2017 Moonee Valley Vase Field has attracted 10 hopefuls with the equal favourites Cliff’s Edge and Aloisia drawn opposite ends of the field with barriers 10 and 1 respectively. Aloisia comes of the Thousand Guineas win against her own kind and takes on the boys stepping-up in distance, while Cliff’s Edge from the Darren Weir stables is on the quick back-up after the impressive 2.75 length win in the Group 3 Ladbrokes Classic (2000m) on Caulfield Cup Day.
|#||Form (Last 10)||Horse||Trainer||Jockey||Barrier||Weight||Hcp. Rating|
|1||21×818121||CLIFF’S EDGE||Darren Weir||Mark Zahra||10||57kg||90|
|2||31×32248||SANCTIONED||James Cummings||Kerrin McEvoy||2||57kg||78|
|3||12×227||SALSAMOR (NZ)||Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young||Dwayne Dunn||9||57kg||70|
|4||505×7516||PISSARO||Robbie Laing||Noel Callow||5||57kg||62|
|5||1223||VIN DE DANCE (NZ)||Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman||Damien Oliver||3||57kg||64|
|6||4×6018||GRAND CASINO||John Sadler||Michael Dee||6||57kg||60|
|7||432||THE SLEDGEHAMMER||John Sadler||Craig Williams||8||57kg||60|
|8||32||WOLFE TONE (NZ)||Francis Finnegan||Jye McNeil||7||57kg||60|
|9||52x12x51||ALOISIA (NZ)||Aaron Purcell||Luke Nolen||1||55kg||100|
|10||996442||FOUR KOALAS||Brian McGrath||Luke Currie||4||55kg||56|
2017 Moonee Valley Vase Nominations
The early Moonee Valley Vase 2017 entries close the Monday of race week and will be provided for punters below once announced.
The 2017 Moonee Valley Vase Nominations drew 19 entries including four fillies led by last start Thousand Guineas winner Aloisia. Also coming off a lead-up win is the Darren Weir-trained Cliff’s Edge who won the previous weekend’s Group 3 Ladbrokes Classic (2000m).
|#||Form (Last 10)||Horse||Sex||Age||Trainer||Hcp. Rating|
|1||52x12x51||ALOISIA (NZ)||F||3||Aaron Purcell||100|
|3||21×818121||CLIFF’S EDGE||C||3||Darren Weir||90|
|4||996442||FOUR KOALAS||F||3||Brian McGrath||56|
|5||60×1142||GLAM GURU||F||3||Leon Macdonald & Andrew Gluyas||69|
|6||4×6018||GRAND CASINO||C||3||John Sadler||60|
|7||635×6108||IL DIVO||C||3||Grahame Begg||61|
|8||223||JOHNNY VINKO (NZ)||G||3||Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young||64|
|9||832571||JUSTICE FAITH||C||3||David & B Hayes & T Dabernig||61|
|10||331||NOTHIN’ LEICA HIGH||C||3||Robbie Griffiths||62|
|12||86×971||RELIABLE DAME (NZ)||F||3||Anthony Freedman||60|
|13||12×227||SALSAMOR (NZ)||C||3||Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young||70|
|15||23×1143||SULLY (NZ)||G||3||Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young||77|
|16||432||THE SLEDGEHAMMER||G||3||John Sadler||60|
|17||1223||VIN DE DANCE (NZ)||G||3||Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman||64|
|18||422×247||WEATHER WITH YOU||G||3||Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman||64|
|19||32||WOLFE TONE (NZ)||C||3||Francis Finnegan||60|
Moonee Valley Vase Form Guide
The Moonee Valley Vase form guide gives you all the information and statistics you need to place a well-informed wager on the race like the jockeys, trainers, barriers, track / distance records and lead-up runs of the horses in the field.
The Moonee Valley Vase form has stacked up in the Group 1 Victoria Derby (2500m) a week later many times over the past 20 years or so providing plenty of winners and placegetters in the Cup Carnival classic.
Moonee Valley Vase Results
Moonee Valley Vase results have been dominated by odds-on favourites and runners under $10 over the past 20 years. Notable recent winners include Jameka (2015), Super Cool (2012), Manawanui (2011), Whobegotyou (2008), Efficient (2006) and Helenus (2002).
2017 Moonee Valley Vase Results
The official Moonee Valley Vase 2017 Results & Finishing Order will be published below once the race is run and won on Saturday October 28, 2017 .
|1||9||ALOISIA (NZ)||Aaron Purcell||Luke Nolen||–||1||55kg||$3|
|2||1||CLIFF’S EDGE||Darren Weir||Mark Zahra||3.5L||10||57kg||$2.45F|
|3||3||SALSAMOR (NZ)||Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young||Dwayne Dunn||9L||9||57kg||$9.50|
|4||4||PISSARO||Robbie Laing||Noel Callow||9.4L||5||57kg||$81|
|5||5||VIN DE DANCE (NZ)||Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman||Damien Oliver||9.8L||3||57kg||$15|
|6||8||WOLFE TONE (NZ)||Francis Finnegan||Jye McNeil||10.8L||7||57kg||$101|
|7||2||SANCTIONED||James Cummings||Kerrin McEvoy||14.05L||2||57kg||$8|
|8||10||FOUR KOALAS||Brian McGrath||Luke Currie||14.25L||4||55kg||$81|
|9||6||GRAND CASINO||John Sadler||Michael Dee||16.75L||6||57kg||$151|
|10||7||THE SLEDGEHAMMER||John Sadler||Craig Williams||99.9L||8||57kg||$31|
Moonee Valley Vase Winners
|2016||Sacred Elixir||Morvada||So Si Bon||2:10.9|
|2014||Moonovermanhattan||Atmosphere||Go Indy Go||2:06.4|
|2013||Savvy Nature||All Rigged Up||Pinstripe Lane||2:05.0|
|2012||Super Cool||It’s A Dundeel||Viking Star||2:08.2|
|2010||Rekindled Interest||Lion Tamer||Hollowlea||2:07.0|
|2004||Plastered||Mr Martini||Count Ricardo||2:07.6|
|2003||Kempinsky||Elvstroem||Lifes A Bounty||2:07.1|
|2002||Helenus||Macedon Lady||Wild Heart||2:08.0|
|2001||Ustinov||Viking Ruler||Pure Theatre||2:06.3|
|2000||Skalato||Universal Prince||Sale Of Century||2:09.2|