Victoria Derby 2017

Saturday November 4, 2017

Ladbrokes Tip: The Moonee Valley Vase is a top guide to the VRC Derby winners

The Victoria Derby is the feature race for young staying types each spring and is the opening Group 1 feature of the Melbourne Cup Carnival following the events of the Group 1 Cox Plate at Moonee Valley in late October. Held over four days in late October and or early November every year, the carnival kicks off on the Saturday before the first Tuesday of November’s Melbourne Cup with the three-year-olds stealing the show in the VRC Derby.

Run over 2500m the Victoria Derby is a classic set weights race now worth $1.5 million in prize money and was first run in 1855. It has held Group 1 status since 1979 and Gai Waterhouse was the first woman trainer to prepare a winner of the race in 1995 with Nothin’ Leica Dane. The race record over the current distance was set by Star Of The Real in 1991 who won in 2.33.60 and other notable winners include Efficient (2006), Elvstroem (2003) and Red Anchor (1984).

Victoria Derby Day features a double shot of Group 1 spring racing action with the three-years-old staying feature accompanied on the Flemington race card by the Group 1 Coolmore Stud Stakes (1200m) for the short distance sprinters of the same age.

This year the 2017 Victoria Derby ran on Saturday November 4, 2017 .

2017 Victoria Derby Results

  • 1st: #1 Ace High
  • 2nd: #6 Sully
  • 3rd: #3 Astoria

Victoria Derby Race Info

  • Date: Saturday November 4, 2017
  • Track: Flemington Racecourse
  • Distance: 2500m
  • Conditions: 3YOs – Set Weights
  • Status: Group 1
  • Prize Money: $1.5 million
  • First Run: 1855

2017 Victoria Derby Results

The 2017 Victoria Derby Results will be published as soon as the race runs on Saturday November 4, 2017 .

Place # Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Br. Weight SP
1 1 ACE HIGH David Payne Tye Angland 3 55.5kg $7F
2 6 SULLY (NZ) Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young Hugh Bowman 2L 14 55.5kg $7.50
3 3 ASTORIA James Cummings Damian Lane 2.2L 1 55.5kg $8
4 9 PISSARO Robbie Laing Noel Callow 2.7L 9 55.5kg $51
5 5 MAIN STAGE (NZ) Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young Michael Walker 2.8L 13 55.5kg $12
6 8 ABERRO Matt Laurie Ben Melham 3.55L 12 55.5kg $41
7 16 WOLFE TONE (NZ) Francis Finnegan Jye McNeil 3.75L 16 55.5kg $201
8 7 WEATHER WITH YOU Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman Mark Zahra 3.95L 2 55.5kg $7.50
9 4 ESHTIRAAK David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Kerrin McEvoy 4.45L 5 55.5kg $12
10 11 OCEAN’S FOURTEEN (NZ) Aaron Purcell Luke Nolen 4.55L 6 55.5kg $12
11 2 TANGLED Chris Waller Blake Shinn 5.3L 10 55.5kg $8
12 15 ROCKARRAL Tony McEvoy John Allen 5.5L 7 55.5kg $61
13 12 GREYCLIFFE (NZ) Matt Cumani Jordan Childs 5.7L 8 55.5kg $11
14 14 NOTHING TOO HARD Paul Perry Beau Mertens (a) 6.45L 11 55.5kg $101
15 10 JUSTICE FAITH David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Craig Williams 7.95L 15 55.5kg $61
16 13 JOHNNY VINKO (NZ) Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young Stephen Baster 8.15L 4 55.5kg $41
17e BEACHWOOD (NZ) Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young 0

Victoria Derby Betting & Odds

Victoria Derby betting markets on possible runners are open months in advance with juicy futures prices on offer at many bookmakers under all-in conditions. Once the VRC Derby field is released the week of the race those markets are slashed and the action heats up with punters looking for the value bet. Favourites have a poor history in the Victoria Derby with Tarzino (2015) the only top fancy in VRC Odds to win since Efficient (2006). Since then there’s been plenty of upsets including Rebel Raider who won at 100/1 in 2008 and Fiveandahalfstar who caused a boil over in 2012 at 40/1.

2017 Victoria Derby Odds

The spring’s latest Victoria Derby 2017 betting odds and Melbourne Cup Carnival Group 1 market links to the staying classic will be provided below so stay tuned for access to the top odds on the VRC Derby horses.

Victoria Derby Tips

Victory Derby tips on which three-year-old to back in the classic are notoriously hard to follow with so many upsets in the race over the years. When sorting through the pre-race predictions one thing that statistically is important to look for horses coming off a lead-up race over at least 2000m. Graduates out of Melbourne lead-up races make the best VRC Derby betting tips, while laying the favourite has also proved profitable more often than not looking back at the recent Victoria Derby results.

2017 Victoria Derby Tips

Our Ladbrokes’ insider Victoria Derby 2017 betting tips and Group 1 Flemington exotic selections on the classic will be detailed below the week of the race so stay tuned for the three-year-old colts & geldings to get behind at the right price this spring.

  • 1st: #3 ASTORIA ($9.50) – James Cummings won this race in an upset last year with Prized Icon and really love the runner he saddles-up on Saturday. Has been the early market mover backed right in from double-figures since the barrier 1 draw, the inside alley producing the most VRC Derby winners (since 1983) than any other alley. Damian Lane rides the Medaglia D’Oro colt who had excuses caught wide when fifth in the Spring Champion Stakes then ran an eye-catcher for third in the Geelong Classic with 58kg. Back to set weights, can get the better of his last two conquerors.
  • 2nd: #2 TANGLED ($7) – Chris Waller-trained Snitzel colt is going too good to ignore. Runner-up to Saturday’s favourite Ace High in the Group 1 Spring champion Stakes (2000m) in Sydney two back before his second to Cliff’s Edge in the traditional Derby lead-up in the Group 3 Ladbrokes Classic (2000m) at Caulfield. Cliff’s Edge is out, but Tangled gets the chance to frank the form from a strangely-run race getting up over more metres.
  • 3rd: #11 OCEAN’S FOURTEEN ($13) – It is a wide open edition and the trifecta is a tough one to pick. Loved the Geelong Classic (2200m) run from this Aaron Purcell-trained colt for second behind Weather With You. Presents fitter here and is bred to run the distance behind a Kiwi-bred son of Ocean Park. Has upside, a draw that presents options in the run and just needs to handle the step-up in grade.

Victoria Derby Field

The Victoria Derby field is released by Racing Victoria on the Tuesday before the race runs on the Saturday meeting before Melbourne Cup Day the following Tuesday and has a capacity starting line-up of 16 three-year-olds plus four emergencies. Before the final field is out the Victoria Derby nominations are taken in late September each year and usually feature around 100 early entries.

Horses may come into the Victoria Derby field via a lead-up run in the Group 2 Moonee Valley Vase (2040m) on Cox Plate Day, which produced back-to-back winners in 2015 and 2016. Efficient (2006) was the last three-year-old to complete the Moonee Valley Vase – VRC Derby double.

Efficient was the last favourite to win in VRC Derby betting markets

VRC Derby winner Efficient (2006) won the following year’s Melbourne Cup . Photo by Taron Clarke.

2017 Victoria Derby Field

The official VRC Derby 2017 Final Field & Barriers are set for release on October 31, 2017 and will be provided in full below so stay tuned to see what gun three-year-old stayers making the line-up.

The 2017 Victoria Derby Field & Barrier Draw is complete, last start Spring Champion Stakes winner Ace High the new favourite after drawing well in barrier three. Former top fancy Main Stage has work to do from a wide barrier 14 draw, while the Kiwi-trained Geelong Classic winner Weather With You is also high up VRC Derby betting set to back up from a favourable gate four draw.

# Form (Last 10) Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Hcp. Rating
1 5564×15511 ACE HIGH David Payne Tye Angland 3 55.5kg 100
2 51100×9422 TANGLED Chris Waller Blake Shinn 11 55.5kg 90
3 120×31553 ASTORIA James Cummings Damian Lane 1 55.5kg 77
4 1617×42565 ESHTIRAAK David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Kerrin McEvoy 5 55.5kg 70
5 3×21213 MAIN STAGE (NZ) Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young Michael Walker 14 55.5kg 75
6 23×1143 SULLY (NZ) Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young Hugh Bowman 15 55.5kg 77
7 422×2471 WEATHER WITH YOU Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman Mark Zahra 2 55.5kg 72
8 226×14554 ABERRO Matt Laurie Ben Melham 13 55.5kg 63
9 505×75164 PISSARO Robbie Laing Noel Callow 10 55.5kg 62
10 8325716 JUSTICE FAITH David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Craig Williams 16 55.5kg 61
11 312 OCEAN’S FOURTEEN (NZ) Aaron Purcell Luke Nolen 7 55.5kg 67
12 0x121 GREYCLIFFE (NZ) Matt Cumani Jordan Childs 9 55.5kg 67
13 2230 JOHNNY VINKO (NZ) Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young Stephen Baster 4 55.5kg 63
14 004×547327 NOTHING TOO HARD Paul Perry Beau Mertens (a) 12 55.5kg 57
15 3210 ROCKARRAL Tony McEvoy John Allen 8 55.5kg 62
16 326 WOLFE TONE (NZ) Francis Finnegan TBA 17 55.5kg 60
17e 5×7822 BEACHWOOD (NZ) Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young TBA 6 55.5kg 56

2017 Victoria Derby Nominations

The Victoria Derby 2017 Nominations are taken on a Tuesday in late September and will be available right here as soon as early entries on the Group 1 race are announced.

The 2017 VRC Derby Nominations drew a bumper 98 three-year-olds including Ace High who won the Group 3 Gloaming Stakes (1800m) at Rosehill on Golden Rose Day in Sydney.

Victoria Derby Form Guide

A good Victoria Derby form guide doesn’t only list the horses, trainers, jockeys and barriers but also their lead-up form and any past runs at the track / distance. That information can be helpful when narrowing down who to back and who to sack. The Victoria Derby barriers are important to consider with wide barriers producing just two winners since 2008 and the inside alley producing two winners during that time with both Monaco Consul (2009) and Polanski (2013) jumping from gate one.

Phar Lap won the victoria derby odds finishing order

Phar Lap was another champion that has won both the Victoria Derby (1929) and Melbourne Cup (1930).

Victoria Derby Form Facts

  • The Moonee Valley Vase is the key VRC Derby form race to follow with Efficient (2006) the last to do the double
  • Favourites in Victoria Derby betting have a poor recent record with Tarzino (2015) the first to salute since Efficient (2006) and Ace High (2017) the only other since
  • Wide Victoria Derby barriers have produced three winners since 2008
  • Upset Victoria Derby results are common so look for value further down the odds on well-bred horses likely to run out the 2500m
  • Jockey Damien Oliver has ridden five VRC Derby winners (since 1983) most recently on Preferment (2014)

Victoria Derby Results & History

The Victoria Derby results including the winner, the trifecta with the first three over the line, winning margins and the complete finishing order of all the starters are out after the classic jumps as Flemington Race 7, the same course and race number as the iconic Melbourne Cup run three days later, on the first Saturday of the Melbourne Cup Carnival. Arguably Australia’s greatest ever champion Phar Lap, won the the Victoria Derby in 1929 before winning the Melbourne Cup the following year. Winners of the VRC Derby dating back to the year 2000 can also be seen below.

Victoria Derby Winners

Year Winner 2nd 3rd Time
2018 TBD TBD TBD TBD
2017 Ace High Sully Astoria 2:37.5
2016 Prized Icon Sacred Elixir Inference 2:36.1
2015 Tarzino Etymology Kia Ora Koutou 2:38.3
2014 Preferment Bondeiger Nozomi 2:37.8
2013 Polanski Complacent Thunder Fantasy 2:38.6
2012 Fiveandahalfstar Super Cool Rawnaq 2:35.9
2011 Sangster Induna Sabrage 2:40.3
2010 Lion Tamer Praecido Retrieve 2:46.4
2009 Monaco Consul Extra Zero Viking Legend 2:41.6
2008 Rebel Raider Whobegotyou Pre Eminence 2:36.9
2007 Kibbutz Littorio Marching 2:40.9
2006 Efficient Gorky Park Teranaba 2:38.3
2005 Benicio Duelled Headturner 2:37.0
2004 Plastered Savabeel Count Ricardo 2:35.4
2003 Elvstroem Kempinsky Our Bahare 2:38.9
2002 Helenus Hydrometer Aint There 2:40.5
2001 Amalfi Zarek Pentastic 2:34.6
2000 Hit The Roof Universal Prince Falls The Shadow 2:39.0