Ladbrokes Tip: The Moonee Valley Vase is a top guide to the VRC Derby winners
The Victoria Derby is the feature race for young staying types each spring and is the opening Group 1 feature of the Melbourne Cup Carnival following the events of the Group 1 Cox Plate at Moonee Valley in late October. Held over four days in late October and or early November every year, the carnival kicks off on the Saturday before the first Tuesday of November’s Melbourne Cup with the three-year-olds stealing the show in the VRC Derby.
Run over 2500m the Victoria Derby is a classic set weights race now worth $1.5 million in prize money and was first run in 1855. It has held Group 1 status since 1979 and Gai Waterhouse was the first woman trainer to prepare a winner of the race in 1995 with Nothin’ Leica Dane. The race record over the current distance was set by Star Of The Real in 1991 who won in 2.33.60 and other notable winners include Efficient (2006), Elvstroem (2003) and Red Anchor (1984).
Victoria Derby Day features a double shot of Group 1 spring racing action with the three-years-old staying feature accompanied on the Flemington race card by the Group 1 Coolmore Stud Stakes (1200m) for the short distance sprinters of the same age.
This year the 2017 Victoria Derby ran on Saturday November 4, 2017 .
2017 Victoria Derby Results
- 1st: #1 Ace High
- 2nd: #6 Sully
- 3rd: #3 Astoria
Victoria Derby Race Info
- Date: Saturday November 4, 2017
- Track: Flemington Racecourse
- Distance: 2500m
- Conditions: 3YOs – Set Weights
- Status: Group 1
- Prize Money: $1.5 million
- First Run: 1855
2017 Victoria Derby Results
The 2017 Victoria Derby Results will be published as soon as the race runs on Saturday November 4, 2017 .
|1||1||ACE HIGH||David Payne||Tye Angland||–||3||55.5kg||$7F|
|2||6||SULLY (NZ)||Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young||Hugh Bowman||2L||14||55.5kg||$7.50|
|3||3||ASTORIA||James Cummings||Damian Lane||2.2L||1||55.5kg||$8|
|4||9||PISSARO||Robbie Laing||Noel Callow||2.7L||9||55.5kg||$51|
|5||5||MAIN STAGE (NZ)||Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young||Michael Walker||2.8L||13||55.5kg||$12|
|6||8||ABERRO||Matt Laurie||Ben Melham||3.55L||12||55.5kg||$41|
|7||16||WOLFE TONE (NZ)||Francis Finnegan||Jye McNeil||3.75L||16||55.5kg||$201|
|8||7||WEATHER WITH YOU||Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman||Mark Zahra||3.95L||2||55.5kg||$7.50|
|9||4||ESHTIRAAK||David & B Hayes & T Dabernig||Kerrin McEvoy||4.45L||5||55.5kg||$12|
|10||11||OCEAN’S FOURTEEN (NZ)||Aaron Purcell||Luke Nolen||4.55L||6||55.5kg||$12|
|11||2||TANGLED||Chris Waller||Blake Shinn||5.3L||10||55.5kg||$8|
|12||15||ROCKARRAL||Tony McEvoy||John Allen||5.5L||7||55.5kg||$61|
|13||12||GREYCLIFFE (NZ)||Matt Cumani||Jordan Childs||5.7L||8||55.5kg||$11|
|14||14||NOTHING TOO HARD||Paul Perry||Beau Mertens (a)||6.45L||11||55.5kg||$101|
|15||10||JUSTICE FAITH||David & B Hayes & T Dabernig||Craig Williams||7.95L||15||55.5kg||$61|
|16||13||JOHNNY VINKO (NZ)||Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young||Stephen Baster||8.15L||4||55.5kg||$41|
|–||17e||BEACHWOOD (NZ)||Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young||–||0||–||–|
Victoria Derby Betting & Odds
Victoria Derby betting markets on possible runners are open months in advance with juicy futures prices on offer at many bookmakers under all-in conditions. Once the VRC Derby field is released the week of the race those markets are slashed and the action heats up with punters looking for the value bet. Favourites have a poor history in the Victoria Derby with Tarzino (2015) the only top fancy in VRC Odds to win since Efficient (2006). Since then there’s been plenty of upsets including Rebel Raider who won at 100/1 in 2008 and Fiveandahalfstar who caused a boil over in 2012 at 40/1.
2017 Victoria Derby Odds
The spring’s latest Victoria Derby 2017 betting odds and Melbourne Cup Carnival Group 1 market links to the staying classic will be provided below so stay tuned for access to the top odds on the VRC Derby horses.
Victoria Derby Tips
Victory Derby tips on which three-year-old to back in the classic are notoriously hard to follow with so many upsets in the race over the years. When sorting through the pre-race predictions one thing that statistically is important to look for horses coming off a lead-up race over at least 2000m. Graduates out of Melbourne lead-up races make the best VRC Derby betting tips, while laying the favourite has also proved profitable more often than not looking back at the recent Victoria Derby results.
2017 Victoria Derby Tips
Our Ladbrokes’ insider Victoria Derby 2017 betting tips and Group 1 Flemington exotic selections on the classic will be detailed below the week of the race so stay tuned for the three-year-old colts & geldings to get behind at the right price this spring.
- 1st: #3 ASTORIA ($9.50) – James Cummings won this race in an upset last year with Prized Icon and really love the runner he saddles-up on Saturday. Has been the early market mover backed right in from double-figures since the barrier 1 draw, the inside alley producing the most VRC Derby winners (since 1983) than any other alley. Damian Lane rides the Medaglia D’Oro colt who had excuses caught wide when fifth in the Spring Champion Stakes then ran an eye-catcher for third in the Geelong Classic with 58kg. Back to set weights, can get the better of his last two conquerors.
- 2nd: #2 TANGLED ($7) – Chris Waller-trained Snitzel colt is going too good to ignore. Runner-up to Saturday’s favourite Ace High in the Group 1 Spring champion Stakes (2000m) in Sydney two back before his second to Cliff’s Edge in the traditional Derby lead-up in the Group 3 Ladbrokes Classic (2000m) at Caulfield. Cliff’s Edge is out, but Tangled gets the chance to frank the form from a strangely-run race getting up over more metres.
- 3rd: #11 OCEAN’S FOURTEEN ($13) – It is a wide open edition and the trifecta is a tough one to pick. Loved the Geelong Classic (2200m) run from this Aaron Purcell-trained colt for second behind Weather With You. Presents fitter here and is bred to run the distance behind a Kiwi-bred son of Ocean Park. Has upside, a draw that presents options in the run and just needs to handle the step-up in grade.
Victoria Derby Field
The Victoria Derby field is released by Racing Victoria on the Tuesday before the race runs on the Saturday meeting before Melbourne Cup Day the following Tuesday and has a capacity starting line-up of 16 three-year-olds plus four emergencies. Before the final field is out the Victoria Derby nominations are taken in late September each year and usually feature around 100 early entries.
Horses may come into the Victoria Derby field via a lead-up run in the Group 2 Moonee Valley Vase (2040m) on Cox Plate Day, which produced back-to-back winners in 2015 and 2016. Efficient (2006) was the last three-year-old to complete the Moonee Valley Vase – VRC Derby double.
2017 Victoria Derby Field
The official VRC Derby 2017 Final Field & Barriers are set for release on October 31, 2017 and will be provided in full below so stay tuned to see what gun three-year-old stayers making the line-up.
The 2017 Victoria Derby Field & Barrier Draw is complete, last start Spring Champion Stakes winner Ace High the new favourite after drawing well in barrier three. Former top fancy Main Stage has work to do from a wide barrier 14 draw, while the Kiwi-trained Geelong Classic winner Weather With You is also high up VRC Derby betting set to back up from a favourable gate four draw.
|#||Form (Last 10)||Horse||Trainer||Jockey||Barrier||Weight||Hcp. Rating|
|1||5564×15511||ACE HIGH||David Payne||Tye Angland||3||55.5kg||100|
|2||51100×9422||TANGLED||Chris Waller||Blake Shinn||11||55.5kg||90|
|3||120×31553||ASTORIA||James Cummings||Damian Lane||1||55.5kg||77|
|4||1617×42565||ESHTIRAAK||David & B Hayes & T Dabernig||Kerrin McEvoy||5||55.5kg||70|
|5||3×21213||MAIN STAGE (NZ)||Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young||Michael Walker||14||55.5kg||75|
|6||23×1143||SULLY (NZ)||Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young||Hugh Bowman||15||55.5kg||77|
|7||422×2471||WEATHER WITH YOU||Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman||Mark Zahra||2||55.5kg||72|
|8||226×14554||ABERRO||Matt Laurie||Ben Melham||13||55.5kg||63|
|9||505×75164||PISSARO||Robbie Laing||Noel Callow||10||55.5kg||62|
|10||8325716||JUSTICE FAITH||David & B Hayes & T Dabernig||Craig Williams||16||55.5kg||61|
|11||312||OCEAN’S FOURTEEN (NZ)||Aaron Purcell||Luke Nolen||7||55.5kg||67|
|12||0x121||GREYCLIFFE (NZ)||Matt Cumani||Jordan Childs||9||55.5kg||67|
|13||2230||JOHNNY VINKO (NZ)||Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young||Stephen Baster||4||55.5kg||63|
|14||004×547327||NOTHING TOO HARD||Paul Perry||Beau Mertens (a)||12||55.5kg||57|
|15||3210||ROCKARRAL||Tony McEvoy||John Allen||8||55.5kg||62|
|16||326||WOLFE TONE (NZ)||Francis Finnegan||TBA||17||55.5kg||60|
|17e||5×7822||BEACHWOOD (NZ)||Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young||TBA||6||55.5kg||56|
2017 Victoria Derby Nominations
The Victoria Derby 2017 Nominations are taken on a Tuesday in late September and will be available right here as soon as early entries on the Group 1 race are announced.
The 2017 VRC Derby Nominations drew a bumper 98 three-year-olds including Ace High who won the Group 3 Gloaming Stakes (1800m) at Rosehill on Golden Rose Day in Sydney.
Victoria Derby Form Guide
A good Victoria Derby form guide doesn’t only list the horses, trainers, jockeys and barriers but also their lead-up form and any past runs at the track / distance. That information can be helpful when narrowing down who to back and who to sack. The Victoria Derby barriers are important to consider with wide barriers producing just two winners since 2008 and the inside alley producing two winners during that time with both Monaco Consul (2009) and Polanski (2013) jumping from gate one.
Victoria Derby Form Facts
- The Moonee Valley Vase is the key VRC Derby form race to follow with Efficient (2006) the last to do the double
- Favourites in Victoria Derby betting have a poor recent record with Tarzino (2015) the first to salute since Efficient (2006) and Ace High (2017) the only other since
- Wide Victoria Derby barriers have produced three winners since 2008
- Upset Victoria Derby results are common so look for value further down the odds on well-bred horses likely to run out the 2500m
- Jockey Damien Oliver has ridden five VRC Derby winners (since 1983) most recently on Preferment (2014)
Victoria Derby Results & History
The Victoria Derby results including the winner, the trifecta with the first three over the line, winning margins and the complete finishing order of all the starters are out after the classic jumps as Flemington Race 7, the same course and race number as the iconic Melbourne Cup run three days later, on the first Saturday of the Melbourne Cup Carnival. Arguably Australia’s greatest ever champion Phar Lap, won the the Victoria Derby in 1929 before winning the Melbourne Cup the following year. Winners of the VRC Derby dating back to the year 2000 can also be seen below.
Victoria Derby Winners
|2016||Prized Icon||Sacred Elixir||Inference||2:36.1|
|2015||Tarzino||Etymology||Kia Ora Koutou||2:38.3|
|2009||Monaco Consul||Extra Zero||Viking Legend||2:41.6|
|2008||Rebel Raider||Whobegotyou||Pre Eminence||2:36.9|
|2000||Hit The Roof||Universal Prince||Falls The Shadow||2:39.0|